but they are still getting legislation passed in a majority of the states around this country. >> lee, you know, part of what i think is interesting for people to understand about how this organization works and the model legislation and all that is, you know, it is not by chance that as we pointed out in the opening, oh, all the sudden 30 states have, you know, stand your ground law. or 30 states have voter id laws. or 30 states -- or ten states have laws restricting sick days. the idea being, i mean, if you take a look at north carolina, which i've thought for a long time as sort of ground zero for a lot of these republican policies, it's not coincidence that these things happen. this is part of that process, i think, for people to understand so that when they see what's going on in their own states, they're paying -- they know to pay attention. >> right. two things. you know, if a corporation like chevron comes to where i live, california, they go to sacramento to pass a bill, they have to register as a lobbyist. their fingerprints are all over a piece of legislation. when they want to enact very controversial legislation, they can go to a.l.e.c.